Wednesday, March 11, 2020

Anna Margretha Hos 1644-1693

Anna Margaretha Hoss was born in 1644 based on Anna Margaretha's death in 1n 1693 when she was 59.  If her parents were 20 when she was born their birthdays would be 1624. If they gave birth to her when they were older they could have been born as early as 1600. With that range in mind I searched Ancestry and FS for a Hoss or Hössin born in the early 1600s. The records for Graben only go back to 1644 but we might be able to find the death record of  a Hoss and extrapolate their birth. One person found on Ancestry is a Michael Hoss who died 27 January 1663. His supposed birth is found below. Unfortunately the translated record shows this is not a Michael Hoss. Margretha's surname could be: "Hosin": Hos or Hoss or Hosin or Hossin. Her death record states: Anna Margaretha, 16 February 1693, haus frau, former citizen, died and was buried the next day, Margaretha wife of Hans Andreas Scholl citizen (Bürger) from Graben. She was 49 years old.
Anna Margaretha married Hans Andres Endris Scholl about 1665. No marriage record has been found. They had eleven children in the Graben church records.

Who are Anna Margaretha's possible siblings?
Hans Michael Hoss b 1636- married Anna Catrina Weidman who lived from 30 Nov 1640- 1 Jan1683 FH ID KGCD-XX6 

What happend to Miachael Hoss and Anna Cathrina Weidman's children?
Hans Christoph Hoss 1665 dec
Magdalen Hoss 1668 dec
Johann Caspar Hoss b 18 Dec 1670 and died 28 Apr 1671 in Graben.
Anna Barbara Hoss 1672-1674

What happened to
Anna Margretha Hoss' children?
Anna Jacobea Scholl 1667 Dec infant
Hans Martin Scholl 1669 Dec 2wks
Johann Adam Scholl 1670-1670
Georg Scholl 1678-1728
Hans Jorg Scholl 1678 Dec infant
Anna Catharina Scholl 1683 Dec 2 wks
Hans Peter Scholl 1687 Dec infant

During their lives:
The In the War of the Grand Alliance (1688-1697), the French destroyed Graben, so that only the church, city hall and some buildings remained. The inhabitants of the village were forced into the forests and in the surrounding area. Peace, order and prosperity did not return until the middle of the 18th century. (Wikipedia)

30 Years War
After the Swedes suffered a great defeat at Nördlingen in 1635,
the emperor sought to seize the moment. The Protestant Margrave with his land between the Catholic margrave Wilhelm from Baden-Baden and Elector Maximilian of Bavaria. The new lords tried to force through the re-Catholization of the country by force. In the Graben Castle there were Jesuits.

It is a matter of judging the quality of the church's work, and it is virtually impossible to achieve evangelical worship. In the end, despite all protests and requests, the Castle was even banned and May 27, 1643 was set as the day of emigration for the Protestant clergy. Already in August, however, this was taken back again a little, because those were in urgent need of military intervention. Real peace, however, did not come until 1648, when the many warring parties in Münster had agreed to put an end to the long murder. There, among other things, they agreed to exercise free rule according to the status of 1618. (Note: In other words after the 30 Years War they went back to the Catholic and Protestant status at the beginning of the war) (Graben by Konrad Dussel)

Graben Cattle after the 30 Years War
All over the place, the stocktaking of losses was the order of the day. Schultheiss Munk drew up the following summary in 1653: Buildings have been burned and torn = 135,  Vicarage and barn burned down.  Change at the burgers, horses and livestock:

                                 1622                  1653

Bürgers (citizens)     145                    42
Horses                      345 stock           62 stock
Cattle                        400 stock           71 stock.
(Graben by Konrad Dussel)

Graben Castle 1600s
Graben Castle seems to have come through the war reasonably well, because there is always the military demand as a quarters and finally the Jesuits when they served on the base. Afterwards, however, it was probably neglected. In 1666, however, it was restored to a habitable condition and fortified to such an extent that it was also habitable offered protection. It could not really prove its worth with any of them; at the next it has already been destroyed.

In 1661 Louis XIV took over the government in France. The foreign policy goal of the later "Sun King" was hegemony over Europe and the consolidation of the state in the northeast and east. The Rhine was to form the natural border of France. (Graben by Konrad Dussel)

Graben Pastors Anna Margaretha knew:
1642-1645 Johann Kratzer
1645-1650 Johann Jakob Zaysser von Hornberg 
1650-1652 M Jonas Anwander
1652-1654 Augustin Langer von Bamberg 
1654-1656 Ludwig Bach von Durlaw 
1656-1663 Martin Luzius von Augsburg (Grabstein auf den Friedhof.) (Translation: Mathias's Gravestone in the Cemetery) served with Augusta Vindel 
1663-1671 Sebastian Aepinus Aping 
1671-1674 Johann Georg Pantzhaff von Urach in Württemberg 
1674-1677 Johann Oswald Crusius (Crusig) von Ravensburg 
1677-1682 Immanuel Rösch von Geislingen 
1682-1692 Konrad Stadmann von Durlach 
1692-1698 Philipp Lindemann von Spöck vicariando versehen worden (Translation: Pfarrer Philipp Lindemann came from Spöck to serve in Graben)
Document related to Anna Margaretha Hosin:
Michael Hoss death 27 Jan 1663 film 004137289 page 255
Robert Seal
: Hi Kent,
You're right: No one named Michael Hoss in this record.
On the 17th [or 27th] of January 1663, Hans He[i]l? died, a M_____?, was 26 years old, also a member of the council, the following day was honestly buried to the earth. 
Note: This document shows the person some think is the father of Anna Margaretha, in fact, is not her father. 
Christoph Hoss bap 16 July 1665 Graben f Michael Hoss m Anna Catrina. film 102078348 page 151
Translation by Robert Seal:
Date: 16 July [1665].
Child: Hanß Christoph.
Parents: Hanß Michel Hoss, Anna Catrina.
Baptismal sponsors: Hanß Christoph Weidmann. Anna Maria Hönle, Reinhard Hönle's daughter. Wendel Kammerer. Anna Magdalena Zeißloff, Hanß Michel Zeißloff's daughter.
Magdalen Hoss bap 29 May 1668 f Michel m Anna Catrina film 102078348 p 152
Translation by Robert Seal:
Date: 29 May [1668].
Child: Magdalena.
Parents: Hanß Michel Hoss, Anna Catrina, wife.
Baptismal sponsors: Hanß Casper Becker together with wife. Hanß Christoph Weidman together with wife.

Johann Caspar Hoss b 18 Dec 1670 f Michel Hoss m Anna Catrina film 102078298
Translation by Robert Seal:
Date: 18 December [1670].
Child: Johan Casper.
Parents: Hans Michel Hoss, Anna Catrina, wife. (nèe Weidmann KN4F-GK7)
Baptismal sponsors: Hans Casper Becker together with wife. Christoph Weidman together with wife. Hanß Mats Kammer[er] together with wife.
Comment: The name "Caspar" in German is typically spelled "Caspar" but in this record I read the name as "Casper".
Note: I looked for Christoph Weidmann who is related to the mother 
Anna Catharina but no luck.
Anna Barbara Hoss b 9 Jun 1672 film 102078348 page 155
Translation by Robert Seal:
Record number: 19.
Child: Anna Barbara.
Date: 9 June [1672].
Parents: H. Michel "Hooß", the younger, A. Katharina, wife.
Baptismal sponsors: Martin "Mooß", tax/customs official, Anna, wife. H. Caspar Beker, Jacobe, wife. H. "Mtaeus" [Mattheus] Kammerer, Margaretha, wife. 
Anna Barbara Hösin age 2 death 29 Aug 1674 film 102078348 page 193
Translation by Robert Seal
On the 29th of August [1674], Anna Barbara Hösin died, her age 2 years, and on the 31st of the same month in the morning was buried.
Comment: No bells, singing, or sermon.
Note: This record shows there were Hössins in Graben in 1674 other than Anna Margretha. 
Hans Michael Hoss age O 5 July 1675 film 102078348 page 194
Translation by Robert Seal:
On the 5th of July [1675], Hans Michel Hoß died between 1:00 am and 2:00 am in the night, his age 21 weeks, and on the 7th [of July 1675] was buried to the earth.
Note: The child's middle name is spelled "Michel" in the body of the record and "Michael" in the left margin. 
Anna Catharina Weidmann death 3 Jan 1683 film 004137289 page 2632
Translation by Robert Seal:
Left margin: same day, Anna Catharina, née Weÿdmännin.
On the 1st of January 1683, in the morning at 7:00 am, Anna Catharina died in bed, surviving wife of the late Hanß Martin Hnaß?/Heaß?, citizen in Rußheim, who on the 3rd day of the same month thereafter in the morning at 8:00 am was buried to the earth according to Christian custom. She lived 42 years, 1 month, and 2 days. [Text read at the funeral was from Psalm 73.]

Anna Margaretha Hosin death 16 Feb 1693 film 4137289 page 272
Translation of death record:
Anna Margaretha, 16 February 1693, haus frau, former citizen, died and was buried the next day Margaretha wife of Hans Andreas Scholl citizen (Bürger) from Graben. She was 49 years old.  
Note: The word weyb or weib  means wife.
Translation by Robert Seal:
On the 16th of February 1693, in the morning towards day, Anna Margaretha (Hosin) died, surviving widow of the late Hannß Andreas Scholl, former citizen at Graben, who the next day per Christian custom was buried in the earth; she lived 49 years.
Note: Anna was born in 1644 and her husband is Hans Andreas Endris Scholl. Anna's FH ID: L7CW-KPY

Pastor:From 1692-1698 Pfarrer Philipp Lindemann von Spöck vicariando versehen worden (Translation: Pfarrer Philipp Lindemann came from Spöck to serve as the temporary Graben Pastor). Pastor Lindemann signed Anna Margaretha's death record and noted how old she was at her time of teach.

Caspar Hoss 18 Feb 1695 death film 102078348 page 207
I read the decedent's surname as "Hokh" rather than "Hoss".
On the 18th of February [1695], Caspar Hokh died, the local cowherd, who was not of the Protestant but of the Catholic religion, who on the following day thereafter, without some/any ceremony, was buried.

Anna Maria Hoss 1699 f Simon m Anna Maria film 102078348 page 180
Translation by Robert Seal:
Date: __? August [1699].
Child: Anna Maria. + [died].
Parents: Simon Hail, Anna Maria.
Baptismal sponsors: Jacob Cammerer with wife. Christoph Weick. Marg[aretha]? Grunemaierin?

This map was made by the French in 1659, sixteen years before the Graben Castle was destroyed. It seems that the Castle must have been quite big compared with others in Weingarten or Philippsburg. Other villages around Graben don't have such a symbol. so we know that Graben was a rather important place...the river Pfinz was the border between Graben and Neudorf.

The first map of Graben, where the castle (on the right) is to be seen of the year 1689. As the castle was destroyed in 1675 by the French it was only a ruin in those days and was used as a quarry! So we know that the  house of the minister of Liedolsheim (some miles west of Graben) was built with stones of Graben Castle. The sort of stone was red sandstone. The remaining stones of the Castle can be seen today.